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THE CUMPSTON AND LIDGETT CONNECTION

Jane Lidgett was born in 1793 in Hull the daughter of Jane Foster and George Lidgett.

William George Cumpston was Christened 26 January 1798 at Holy Trinity Sculcoates Hull.

He was a witness at his brother Thomas's wedding on 26 November 1815. Thomas was my 3 x great grandfather.

Jane married William George Cumpston 21 December 1819 at St Mary's Lowgate Hull.

William George was a Hull river Pilot, but lost his job in 1835. He drowned in 1836.

William and Jane had a son George Lidgett Cumpston born in 1821.

In the 1841 census George is living with my 2 x great grandfather Watson Cumpston in Sculcoates, described as a boat builder.

He married Ann Bolton  1845 in Hull.

They emigrated to Australia in 1852 and I should like to hear the true story of how and why they went. My own 'urban myth' is that they were sent by John Lidgett to progress his business. Do you have more information to clarify this?

He died in Ardale Victoria aged 75 years.

QUEEN OF THE NORTH - 1857/1863
Master: Captain D. Brown (1857); Captain Crombie (1863)
Rigging: Ship; sheated in yellow metal in 1855 & 1861; fastened with copper bolts
Tonnage: 858 tons using old measurements and 906 tons using new measurements.
Dimensions: 168 feet long, 33 foot beam and holds 21 feet deep; repairs to damages in 1858
Construction: 1855 in Sunderland
Owners: Bradley & Co. (1857); Lidgett & Son (1863)
Port of registry: Sunderland (1857); London (1863)
Port of survey: Sunderland (1857); London (1863)
Voyage: sailed for Aden (1857); New Zealand (1863)
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SIR JOHN LAWRENCE - 1860
Rigging: iron Ship
Tonnage: 698 tons
Construction: 1859, Laing in Sunderland
Owners: J. Lidgett
Port of registry: London
Port of survey: London

LLOYD'S REGISTER

BRITISH AND FOREIGN
SHIPPING.

Fram Ist JULY. 1880 to the 8th JUNE. 1881.

Established 1834.

1794 J.Lidgett

1848 J.Lidgett
London Sydney

18S2 J. Allan
Lidgett & Domulle
W.Bird

Index of Merchant sailing ships, 1850-1875 : heyday of sail
by David R. MacGregor

1984 Naval Institute Press

John Lidgett 132, 236

http://catdir.loc.gov/catdir/toc/becites/genealogy/immigrant/84061562.idx.html

Lidgett family of Hull

The National Maritime Museum at Greenwich holds the Lloyd's Survey Report made during construction of the Mary Shepherd (number SLD 6429). She was built for Joseph Shepherd by the James Briggs & Co yard at Sunderland. and William Budge was her first master.

Built at Sunderland in 1858, The Mary Shepherd was a 'full rigged' Wooden Ship weighing 905 tons - Her Signal number was 1290 was rated A1 had three decks -draught was 21- was made of oregon , fastenings of copper and iron , and was sheathed in Copper in March 1872 at Boston, Massachusetts where she also underwent repairs and was surveyed in Sep 1872. . At that stage she was owned by Lidgett & Sons. Here dimensions were 168 x 34 x 22. Her then Captain was George Croot. And according to one book she was last seen at Boston in Feb 1873.

Her sister ship almost identical in construction was The Queen of the North - there were several ships with identical names - Lidgett's became the owners of the Mary Shepherd soon after the death of Joseph Shepherd - J. Lidgett was the executor of Joseph Shepherd's Will.

QUEEN OF THE NORTH - 1857/1863
Master: Captain D. Brown (1857); Captain Crombie (1863)
Rigging: Ship; sheated in yellow metal in 1855 & 1861; fastened with copper bolts
Tonnage: 858 tons using old measurements and 906 tons using new measurements.
Dimensions: 168 feet long, 33 foot beam and holds 21 feet deep; repairs to damages in 1858
Construction: 1855 in Sunderland
Owners: Bradley & Co. (1857); Lidgett & Son (1863)
Port of registry: Sunderland (1857); London (1863)
Port of survey: Sunderland (1857); London (1863)
Voyage: sailed for Aden (1857); New Zealand (1863)

Later on in Melbourne on another voyage
Mary Shepherd. Full rigged ship, 905 tons. Built Sunderland, 1858. Having arrived from London a week previously, was only partly unloaded when she caught fire while berthed at Hobson Bay Railway Co.’s pier at Sandridge, Melbourne, 2 July 1871. The tug Sophia managed to tow her out from the pier and she was scuttled in four fathoms off Town Pier. The Mary Shepherd was later raised and repaired ‘after great difficulty’. [WPP]

Later still in New Zealand

Genealogical Society. "Mary Shepherd" List of assisted immigrants to Canterbury on the "Mary Shepherd. 1953. Book. The Mary Shepherd, 920 tons, sailed from London 12 May, 1873 and arrived Lyttelton 20 August. She made four voyages to Auckland and one voyage to Lyttelton. Christchurch City Libraries NZ Collection Article

http://users.chariot.net.au/~kenwall/Mary%20Shepherd%20-%20The%20Ship.htm

Marine Insurance. A Series of Lectures Delivered by F. H. CAREY, Esq.,
Adjuster of Marine Claims to the LONDON ASSURANCE CORPORATION.

Reprinted from LLOYD'S LIST. LOSS AFTER EXPIRY OF POLICY.

If the total loss does not occur during the period covered by the Policy, the position is
different. The assured is entitled, as at the expiration of the Policy, to claim from the
Underwriter payment for depreciation caused by a peril insured against and existing at that time. If the vessel is lost after the expiry of the Policy, this would not relieve the Underwriters from liability to pay for the unrepaired damage and the under writers on the succeeding Policy would have
to pay the full insured value, although the vessel was in a damaged condition. (Lidgett v. Secretan, 1871, and Woodside v. Globe Marine Insurance Company, 1896.) We have, therefore, two instances where vessels with unrepaired damage are subsequently lost; in the first instance the Owner does not recover in respect of his unrepaired damage, and in the other instance he recovers both
his unrepaired damage in respect of which he has not sustained any financial loss, and a total loss in addition. This may appear to be inconsistent with the principle that an assured must not make a profit out of a loss, but this is only because the total loss occurred during the currency of the succeeding Policy. The vessel might, however, run, say, for ten or twenty years with unrepaired
damage and then be totally lost, or the Owner may not sell his ship for some years after the accident, in which event the buyer would still require an allowance for unrepaired damaged. Looked at from this point of view, the decision in Lidgett v. Secretan is quite reasonable.

http://www.archive.org/stream/marineinsurances00carerich/marineinsurances00carerich_djvu.txt

A SKETCH OF THE ORIGIN, CONSTITUTION, AND PROGRESS OF LLOYD'S REGISTER OF BRITISH & FOREIGN SHIPPING. LONDON.

MDCCCLXXXIV. WYMAN AND SONS, PRINTERS,

GREAT QUEEN STREET, LINCOLN's-INN FIELDS, LONDON W.C.

COMMITTEE OF MANAGEMENT. 1884-85.
William Henry Tindall, Chairman.
Michael Wills, Deputy-Chairman.
Thomas B. Walker, Chairman of the Sub- Committees of Classification.

MEMBERS ELECTED IN LONDON.
H. J. Bristow, John Cony, Solomon I. DaCosta, James Dixon, George Duncan,
John Glover, Henry Green, George Lidgett, H. E. Montgomerie, Frederic B. B. Natusch,

http://www.archive.org/stream/annalsoflloydsre00londuoft/annalsoflloydsre00londuoft_djvu.txt

HULL in White's Directory of 1840.

Shopkeepers, See also Bakers & Bacon, &c. Factors,

Lidgett William, Adelaide street
WHO IS THIS?

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page from 1837

Marriages Dec 1837
LIDGETT James Kingston On Hull 22 274
 
Marriages Dec 1839 Lidgett Elizabeth Sculcoates 22 454

Births Jun 1841 Lidgett Charles Hull 22 406

Births Sep 1843 Lidgett Edward Hull 22 395
LIDGETT Edward Hull 22 398

Deaths Sep 1844 Lidgett Esther Hull 22 237

Marriages Sep 1844 LIDGETT William York 23 601

Births Dec 1844 LIDGETT George Pocklington 23 69

Births Sep 1846 Lidgett George Pocklington 23 80

Deaths Dec 1846 Lidgett Mary Hull 22 354

Deaths Jun 1847 Lidgett Lucy Hull 22 306

Births Jun 1849
Lidgett Mary Eliza Pocklington 23 81

Births Sep 1849 LIDGETT James Hull 22 429

Deaths Jun 1851 Lidgett James Hull 22 325

Births Sep 1851 Lidgett William Hull 22 497

Births Jun 1854 LIDGETT Mary Elizabeth Sculcoates 9d 156

Marriages Sep 1857 Lidgett Jane Sculcoates 9d 204

Marriages Dec 1859 Lidgett Alfred Sculcoates 9d 208

Marriages Jun 1865 Lidgett George Sculcoates 9d 260

Marriages Sep 1868 LIDGETT Peter Scarbro' 9d 498

Deaths Sep 1876 LIDGETT William 24 Hull 9d 141

Marriages Mar 1877 Lidgett Emma Hull 9d 328

Deaths Mar 1881 LIDGETT Ann 79 Sculcoates 9d 120

Deaths Jun 1882 Lidgett Sarah 63 Sculcoates 9d 122

Marriages Sep 1882 Lidgett Alice Scarborough 9d 497

Marriages Dec 1887 LIDGETT James Edward Sculcoates 9d 302

Marriages Sep 1891 Lidgett Mary Elizabeth Sculcoates 9d 256

Marriages Sep 1892 LIDGETT James Howden 9d 157

Marriages Jun 1903 Lidgett Emily Sculcoates 9d 335

Deaths Mar 1909 LIDGETT James Edward 42 Sculcoates 9d 136

Deaths Mar 1911 LIDGETT Selina 65 Sculcoates 9d 154

Marriages Jun 1912 Lidgett Walter Waudby Hull 9d 612

Births Mar 1914 LIDGETT Muriel M Waudby Hull 9d 555

Deaths Dec 1922 Lidgett Charles 75 Pocklington 9d 72

Deaths Mar 1923 LIDGETT George 76 Sculcoates 9d 221

Marriages Dec 1929 Lidgett Samuel Sawdon Scarbro' 9d 918

Births Sep 1930 Lidgett Wilfred A Arundel York 9d 4

Marriages Mar 1938 Lidgett Ethel Sharpe Hull 9d 367

Marriages Mar 1941 Lidgett Muriel M Lancaster Hull 9d 392

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