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Lidgett family of Hull

The National Maritime Museum at Greenwich holds the Lloyd's Survey Report made during construction of the Mary Shepherd (number SLD 6429). She was built for Joseph Shepherd by the James Briggs & Co yard at Sunderland. and William Budge was her first master.

 

Built at Sunderland in 1858, The Mary Shepherd was a 'full rigged' Wooden Ship weighing 905 tons - Her Signal number was 1290 was rated A1 had three decks -draught was 21- was made of oregon , fastenings of copper and iron , and was sheathed in Copper in March 1872 at Boston, Massachusetts where she also underwent repairs and was surveyed in Sep 1872. . At that stage she was owned by Lidgett & Sons. Here dimensions were 168 x 34 x 22. Her then Captain was George Croot. And according to one book she was last seen at Boston in Feb 1873.

 

Her sister ship almost identical in construction was The Queen of the North - there were several ships with identical names - Lidgett's became the owners of the Mary Shepherd soon after the death of Joseph Shepherd - J. Lidgett was the executor of Joseph Shepherd's Will.  

 

QUEEN OF THE NORTH - 1857/1863

Master:  Captain D. Brown (1857); Captain Crombie (1863)

Rigging:  Ship; sheated in yellow metal in 1855 & 1861;  fastened with copper bolts

Tonnage:  858 tons using old measurements and 906 tons using new measurements.

Dimensions:  168 feet long, 33 foot beam and holds 21 feet deep; repairs to damages in 1858

Construction:  1855 in Sunderland

Owners:  Bradley & Co. (1857); Lidgett & Son (1863)

Port of registry:  Sunderland (1857); London (1863)

Port of survey:  Sunderland (1857); London (1863)

Voyage:  sailed for Aden (1857); New Zealand (1863)

 

Later on in Melbourne on another voyage

Mary Shepherd. Full rigged ship, 905 tons. Built Sunderland, 1858. Having arrived from London a week previously, was only partly unloaded when she caught fire while berthed at Hobson Bay Railway Co.’s pier at Sandridge, Melbourne, 2 July 1871. The tug Sophia managed to tow her out from the pier and she was scuttled in four fathoms off Town Pier. The Mary Shepherd was later raised and repaired ‘after great difficulty’. [WPP]

 

Later still in New Zealand

 

Genealogical Society. "Mary Shepherd" List of assisted immigrants to Canterbury on the "Mary Shepherd. 1953. Book. The Mary Shepherd, 920 tons, sailed from London 12 May, 1873 and arrived Lyttelton 20 August. She made four voyages to Auckland and one voyage to Lyttelton. Christchurch City Libraries NZ Collection Article

 

http://users.chariot.net.au/~kenwall/Mary%20Shepherd%20-%20The%20Ship.htm

 

LLOYD'S REGISTER

BRITISH AND FOREIGN

SHIPPING.

 

Fram Ist JULY. 1880 to the 8th JUNE. 1881.

 

Established 1834.

 

1794 J.Lidgett

 

1848 J.Lidgett

London  Sydney

 

18S2 J. Allan

Lidgett & Domulle

W.Bird

QUEEN OF THE NORTH - 1857/1863

Master:  Captain D. Brown (1857); Captain Crombie (1863)

Rigging:  Ship; sheated in yellow metal in 1855 & 1861;  fastened with copper bolts

Tonnage:  858 tons using old measurements and 906 tons using new measurements.

Dimensions:  168 feet long, 33 foot beam and holds 21 feet deep; repairs to damages in 1858

Construction:  1855 in Sunderland

Owners:  Bradley & Co. (1857); Lidgett & Son (1863)

Port of registry:  Sunderland (1857); London (1863)

Port of survey:  Sunderland (1857); London (1863)

Voyage:  sailed for Aden (1857); New Zealand (1863)

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SIR JOHN LAWRENCE - 1860

Rigging:  iron Ship

Tonnage:  698 tons

Construction:  1859,  Laing in Sunderland

Owners:  J. Lidgett

Port of registry:  London

Port of survey:  London

 

HULL in White's Directory of 1840.

 

Shopkeepers, See also Bakers & Bacon, &c. Factors,

 

Lidgett William, Adelaide street

WHO IS THIS?

Index of Merchant sailing ships, 1850-1875 : heyday of sail

by David R. MacGregor

 

1984 Naval Institute Press

 

John Lidgett 132, 236

 

http://catdir.loc.gov/catdir/toc/becites/genealogy/immigrant/84061562.idx.html

 

A SKETCH OF THE  ORIGIN, CONSTITUTION, AND PROGRESS OF LLOYD'S REGISTER OF BRITISH & FOREIGN SHIPPING. LONDON.

MDCCCLXXXIV. WYMAN AND SONS, PRINTERS,

 

GREAT QUEEN STREET, LINCOLN's-INN FIELDS, LONDON W.C.

 

COMMITTEE OF MANAGEMENT. 1884-85.

William Henry Tindall, Chairman.

Michael Wills, Deputy-Chairman.

Thomas B. Walker, Chairman of the Sub- Committees of Classification.

 

MEMBERS ELECTED IN LONDON.

H. J. Bristow, John Cony, Solomon I. DaCosta, James Dixon, George Duncan,

John Glover, Henry Green, George Lidgett, H. E. Montgomerie, Frederic B. B. Natusch,

 

http://www.archive.org/stream/annalsoflloydsre00londuoft/annalsoflloydsre00londuoft_djvu.txt

 

 

Marine Insurance. A Series of Lectures Delivered by F. H. CAREY, Esq.,  

Adjuster of Marine Claims to the LONDON ASSURANCE CORPORATION.

 

Reprinted from LLOYD'S LIST. LOSS AFTER EXPIRY OF POLICY.

 

If the total loss does not occur during the period covered by the Policy, the position is

different. The assured is entitled, as at the expiration of the Policy, to claim from the

Underwriter payment for depreciation caused by a peril insured against and existing at that time. If the vessel is lost after the expiry of the Policy, this would not relieve the Underwriters from liability to pay for the unrepaired damage and the under writers on the succeeding Policy would have

to pay the full insured value, although the vessel was in a damaged condition. (Lidgett v. Secretan, 1871, and Woodside v. Globe Marine Insurance Company, 1896.) We have, therefore, two instances where vessels with unrepaired damage are subsequently lost; in the first instance the Owner does not recover in respect of his unrepaired damage, and in the other instance he recovers both

his unrepaired damage in respect of which he has not sustained any financial loss, and a total loss in addition. This may appear to be inconsistent with the principle that an assured must not make a profit out of a loss, but this is only because the total loss occurred during the currency of the succeeding Policy. The vessel might, however, run, say, for ten or twenty years with unrepaired

damage and then be totally lost, or the Owner may not sell his ship for some years after the accident, in which event the buyer would still require an allowance for unrepaired damaged. Looked at from this point of view, the decision in Lidgett v. Secretan is quite reasonable.

 

http://www.archive.org/stream/marineinsurances00carerich/marineinsurances00carerich_djvu.txt

 

Marriages Sep 1844  LIDGETT  William     York  23 601    

 

Births Dec 1844  LIDGETT  George     Pocklington  23 69    

 

Births Sep 1846  Lidgett  George     Pocklington  23 80    

 

Deaths Dec 1846   Lidgett  Mary     Hull  22 354    

 

Deaths Jun 1847  Lidgett  Lucy     Hull  22 306    

 

Births Jun 1849  

Lidgett  Mary Eliza     Pocklington  23 81    

 

Births Sep 1849  LIDGETT  James     Hull  22 429    

 

Deaths Jun 1851   Lidgett  James     Hull  22 325    

 

Births Sep 1851 Lidgett  William     Hull  22 497    

 

Births Jun 1854  LIDGETT  Mary Elizabeth     Sculcoates  9d 156    

 

Marriages Sep 1857  Lidgett  Jane     Sculcoates  9d 204    

 

Marriages Dec 1859  Lidgett  Alfred     Sculcoates  9d 208    

 

Marriages Jun 1865  Lidgett  George     Sculcoates  9d 260    

 

Marriages Sep 1868  LIDGETT  Peter     Scarbro'  9d 498    

 

Deaths Sep 1876   LIDGETT  William  24  Hull  9d 141    

 

Marriages Mar 1877  Lidgett  Emma     Hull  9d 328    

 

Deaths Mar 1881   LIDGETT  Ann  79  Sculcoates  9d 120    

 

Deaths Jun 1882  Lidgett  Sarah  63  Sculcoates  9d 122    

 

Marriages Sep 1882  Lidgett  Alice     Scarborough  9d 497    

 

Marriages Dec 1887   LIDGETT  James Edward     Sculcoates  9d 302    

 

Marriages Sep 1891   Lidgett  Mary Elizabeth     Sculcoates  9d 256    

 

Marriages Sep 1892   LIDGETT  James     Howden  9d 157    

 

Marriages Jun 1903  Lidgett  Emily     Sculcoates  9d 335    

 

Deaths Mar 1909   LIDGETT  James Edward  42  Sculcoates  9d 136  

 

Deaths Mar 1911   LIDGETT  Selina  65  Sculcoates  9d 154    

 

Marriages Jun 1912  Lidgett  Walter  Waudby  Hull  9d 612    

 

Births Mar 1914   LIDGETT  Muriel M  Waudby  Hull  9d 555    

 

Deaths Dec 1922   Lidgett  Charles  75  Pocklington  9d 72    

 

Deaths Mar 1923 LIDGETT  George  76  Sculcoates  9d 221  

 

Marriages Dec 1929   Lidgett  Samuel  Sawdon  Scarbro'  9d 918    

 

Births Sep 1930   Lidgett  Wilfred A  Arundel  York  9d 4    

 

Marriages Mar 1938  Lidgett  Ethel  Sharpe  Hull  9d 367    

 

Marriages Mar 1941  Lidgett  Muriel M  Lancaster  Hull  9d 392  

 

THE CUMPSTON AND LIDGETT CONNECTION

 

Jane Lidgett was born in 1793 in Hull the daughter of Jane Foster and George Lidgett.

 

William George Cumpston was Christened 26 January 1798 at Holy Trinity Sculcoates Hull.

 

He was a witness at his brother Thomas's wedding on 26 November 1815. Thomas was my 3 x great grandfather.

 

Jane married William George Cumpston 21 December 1819 at St Mary's Lowgate Hull.

 

William George was a Hull river Pilot, but lost his job in 1835.  He drowned in 1836.

 

William and Jane had a son George Lidgett Cumpston born in 1821.  

 

In the 1841 census George is living with my 2 x great grandfather Watson Cumpston in Sculcoates, described as a boat builder.

 

He married Ann Bolton  1845 in Hull.

 

They emigrated to Australia in 1852 and I should like to hear the true story of how and why they went.  My own 'urban myth' is that they were sent by John Lidgett to progress his business.  Do you have more information to clarify this?

 

He died in Ardale Victoria aged 75 years.

Surname  First name(s)  Age  District  Vol  Page  from 1837

 

Marriages Dec 1837  

LIDGETT  James    Kingston On Hull  22 274

   

Marriages Dec 1839 Lidgett  Elizabeth     Sculcoates  22 454    

 

Births Jun 1841  Lidgett  Charles     Hull  22 406    

 

Births Sep 1843   Lidgett  Edward     Hull  22 395    

LIDGETT  Edward     Hull  22 398    

 

Deaths Sep 1844   Lidgett  Esther     Hull  22 237